Watching Videos on Palm Pre

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  1. Agent K New Member

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    Watching Videos on Palm Pre

    Questions for those of us who convert our own videos:

    -What format are we going to watch videos in
    -What software/freeware are we going to convert it with
    -What resolution (easy answer)
    -What frame rate

    Please post more questions and Answers if you can come up with them
  2. AKITAYO Active Member

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    ANSWER FOR YOUR FIRST QUESTION on Palm Pre launch manual page 20

    "What types of e-mail and attachments can I view with the Pre?
    View richly formatted emails and full fidelity attachments
    View emails with full HTML support, including in-line images
    Media attachment support
    – Images – jpg, gif, bmp, png
    – Video – mp4, m4v
    – Audio – wav, mp3"
  3. Agent K New Member

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    So as far as video goes:

    -convert to mp4 or m4v
    -convert with http://handbrake.fr/
    -conver to resolution 480x320
    -Framerate I'm not to clear on what a decent spec is, maybe 25-30

    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/09/downgrading.php

    Any objections or additions?


    I hope the email can do all of those things by the way
  4. .plaid Member

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    The complete list of file formats is over at Palm's website (AKITAYO was referring to e-mail attachments).

    chris and I talked a few weeks ago about doing up a brief article about converting video for viewing in the Pre. I did a test conversion of "Hot Rod" using Handbrake but have no Pre on which to confirm that everything worked as expected. Here is where I landed:

    File Format: AVI with XviD codec
    Target File Size: 250MB
    Frame Size: 320x(blank)
    Audio: mp3 @ 48KHz/56Kbps

    The frame rate worked out to be ~24fps and, for this movie; the resolution was 320x144 (both stats via GSpot).

    Handbrake is nice in that it will read directly from a DVD and do the conversion in one package; the only problem is that users would likely need a DVD encryption decoder and I'm not sure that chris is comfortable with recommending that folks steal (their own) movies. That's kinda where we left it. I would have tried converting one of the 'included' digital copies of a movie, but all of mine are on Blu-Ray and I don't have a BD-ROM just yet.

    Hope this helps somewhat,
    .
  5. e1allen New Member

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    Not sure what is up, but I tried converting some videos to play on the Pre, and it is not working even if the videos are encoded in the supported format. I am using Adobe media encoder. Anyone have any luck with another program or setting?
  6. .plaid Member

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    I wrote a little blog entry about it here. .mp4 files with the FFmpeg codec are the only ones I've confirmed so far. There is talk of folks using their iPod videos but nothing has been said about what those formats or decoders might be.

    Best,
    .
  7. e1allen New Member

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    I followed the settings but when I hit start, it encodes for about 1/2 a second then finishes, and it leaves me with a 100kb file that does nothing.
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    If you click the Activity Window button, you should see some commented information like
    and possibly some more info. Can you either post or PM me the activity log?

    Some immediate thoughts:
    · Try it with another file and see what happens.
    · HandBrake is iffy on Vista
    · Source file matters; it doesn't do WMV for example

    Best,
    .
  9. e1allen New Member

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    ok, so as long as it is coming from a movie it seems to be working
  10. MarcoC2 New Member

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    The easiest way I found to convert my porn is to use the firefox extension videodownload helper.

    If you search around in the options there is a covert video plugin.

    From in the browser choose convert video by righ clicking on a webpage and it will ask you to choose a file from your hd. When it asks about the outpu format just choose iphone (same screen res). Worked perfectly for me.
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    90% of my videos I have and all the videos on the sites I use for bussiness are WMV videos. What can I do?
  12. .plaid Member

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    HandBrake doesn't work well with the proprietary .wmv format, as I'm sure you've discovered. I'm currently downloading a program called Any Video Converter and will run some tests & get back to you.

    Edit: I installed the program then threw both an .avi and .wmv file at it: both play on the Pre.

    The only setting I changed was the location of the output folder; I left all of the formats the same. This may end up being an easier solution for some folks. The only problem is that it's Windows-only....

    Attached Files:

  13. e1allen New Member

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    good call, will try this as well. I think we are going to have to wait for the other formats to be supported, I don't see why they shouldn't be within the next few months, since most video sites use different types of format.
  14. AKITAYO Active Member

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    Format factory for all

    PALM PRE SUPPORT
    Audio Formats: MP3, AAC, AAC+, AMR, QCELP, WAV
    Video Formats: MPEG-4, H.263, H.264
    Image Formats: GIF, JPEG, PNG, BMP

    I use this software for all purposes and it is free:

    http://www.formatoz.com/

    and it is great:cool:
  15. jwbrowningjr New Member

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    I converted Fast & Furious 4 using handbrake, but it would not play once I dropped it onto the pre. It found the video just would not play.. I used 480 x 320 and converted it to mp4 from avi.. Any suggestions?
  16. seraphemz New Member

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    There is a free program called VUZE. Its a torrent program, but it also converts videos. Thats what I used to get videos on my phone.

    Edit : works perfectly. Added video via itunes.
  17. .plaid Member

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    If you used HandBrake you also have to ensure that you selected the FFmpeg codec (see walk through here). It's unfortunate that, even though Palm lists H.264 as a supported codec it hasn't been shown to work yet.

    If you have Windows you might try that Any Video Converter program I mentioned above.

    Best,
    .
  18. jwbrowningjr New Member

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    Thanks.. I will try it when I get off work in a few hours.
  19. fr4nk1yn New Member

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    I'm played with a couple of encodes last night.
    Both in handbrake. One used the iPod setting the other ffmpeg.
    iTunes would copy neither to the phone.
  20. seraphemz New Member

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    VUZE... try it.

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