Wired hates the Pre http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/palm-we-can’t-afford-to-sell-the-pre-to-the-wrong-customers/ No love from Wired for the Pre !
I don't think wired's comments are biased or against pre. but that is how sprint chose to put it in their "secret" document (what a joke these secrets are). two possible reasons I can think of why sprint wants to push treo pro instead of pre 1) they have overstock of pro that they want to push 2) pre is not yet ready to be a business phone at release. WM is older technology that is ready business phone right now. only fault in wired's article is that it is sprint's doc not palm's
Wow people will flip their proverbial sh*t at anything nowadays. I don't see the "we can't afford to sell the Pre to the wrong customer" thing as a dig against the business customers... I see it as Sprint trying to train their people to better understand their customer's needs. Think about it. What if a huge contingent of corporate users bought in on the Pre only to find out that it doesn't meet their IT infrastructure requirements? Imagine the returns Sprint/Palm would have to process... it would be a disaster. Working in a major pharma corporation, I know first-hand the insane-o requirements on mobile devices. My company supports WinMo and ONLY WinMo... that's it. If you try to use a different mobile OS, you get ZERO in the way of IT support for it. Good luck getting your emails and calendar on an iPhone here. Of course, I've already set up a 1-way sync from my corporate Outlook to a Google calendar for use on my upcoming Pre LOL
I completely agree with you. I think it is a smart and thoughtful move to actually educate the sales staff to figure out what the customer's needs are. The Pre is not going to work for everyone. But it is going to work just fine for me!
IF it worked for everyone, Palm wouldn't be able to keep up with the demand, anyway. There are many millions of cell phone users in this day and age. More Pre's for us!
I agreee wholeheartedly, swami. Why sell a product to someone just to make a sale, when you have a product that better suits their needs? The Pre is positioned to compete with the iPhone (despite what Palm may say about it), with a bit more support for business use, but that's light business use, as per the document. WebOS is cloud-based, and a large number enterprise-sized businesses don't have full support for working in the cloud. My workplace only issues Blackberries, and sadly I can't get one, let alone set up my soon-to-be own Pre for use at work.
I'm actually glad I stumbled upon this. That's GREAT to know that it's not suited for heavy business application as I am not looking for such a business phone. I am a college student looking for a new cool gadget that I can impress my friends with that have the iPhone. I think Palm/Sprint is doing us a significant favor in being honest with it's customers about the phone's true utility.
Are you sure you're not really MR. SKI MASK GUY looking for a social life!??? *cough* he did it all for the nookie *cough*
I agree, it's nice to know that it will not be a serious bussiness phone at launch. I'm glad that Sprint is educating it's sales staff to better serve it's customers. And yes I do agree that the Pre is first and foremost a direct competitor to the iPhone. But remember it is also designed to scale up for much more. As mentioned on the Palm site, the webOS will eventually be offered on other Palm products. So to say that the Pre will not be a strong bussiness phone in the not so distant future, may be ill-advised. With that said... Has anyone heard about expected real world use battery life expectations?
I agree, the Pre like the iPhone is mainly a consumer device and not a business one. Palm need to do a Google and make webos widely available so other people can develop phones, etc for it.
The idea is that it mostly runs data from the cloud, and it's not really designed to run robust applications on the phone itself or sync up directly with PC apps. I suppose that with some serious developer support and a server-based architecture, you could do a lot more with the Pre.
Retarded Article That guy was retarded in the article. He obviously was an iPhone user and not a true bi-partisan journalist with any sort of ethics!!
Seriously, I don't see this at all. It was a straight up review, with some reasoned opinion at the end, albeit bluntly phrased opinion. I actually agree. As much as I'd like the Pre to be a runaway success, I don't expect it to be another iPhone. The iPhone was special in that it was the first device of its type, a multitouch smartphone with a form factor no one had seen. Apple cultists will say that the brand is also special, but that's debatable. The Pre is another multitouch smartphone. Sure it does some innovative things, especially OS-wise, but it's in incremental step, not a gamechanger. Now, I'm not saying the Pre won't be successful. In fact, I think it (and WebOS) will do what Palm needs it to do, and keep them in the game. I doubt that it will bring droves of subscribers to Sprint. I think we can all agree that will the Pre will likely do well, it's no iPhone killer.
I tend to agre, the iPhone hasn't killed Rim and the Pre won't kill Apple. there's places in the market for both of them.